Utilizing YOUR Treasury Direct Accounts - Page 2 (2024)

avauinc wrote:Debunk all you want, ALL IS WELL! Go TDA!!!!!!!!!!!! :yes:

Here's a news article for you avauinc.

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http://www.dinardaily.net/t66424-usa-today-youtube-video-tricking-consumers-on-how-to-pay-bills-using-social-security-numbers-8-20-17

avauinc wrote:Debunk all you want, ALL IS WELL! Go TDA!!!!!!!!

From the recent articles I have seen, the only places you will go if you attempt this are to court and to jail !! Otherwise you will just end up paying NSF fees on top of all your bills.

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Federal Trade Commission says - No secret bank accounts to pay your bills

Another day, another scam.

Case in point: the Federal Reserve Bank of New York reports that scammers are telling people they can pay their bills using so-called “secret accounts” or “Social Security trust accounts” and routing numbers at Federal Reserve Banks. In exchange for personal information, like Social Security numbers, people get what they think is a bank account number at a Federal Reserve Bank. But this really is just a way to get your personal information, which scammers can then sell or use to commit fraud, like identity theft.

It’s good to keep in mind that people do not have accounts at Federal Reserve Banks. Only banks can bank at the Federal Reserve. But what happens if you try to use this “secret” account? Well, the Federal Reserve Bank will deny the payment, since you don’t really have an account there. Once the payment is rejected, you’ll be notified that you still owe the money – which is about when you might figure out that this was a scam. At that point, you may owe a late fee or penalty to the company you thought you were paying. You also may owe fees to your bank for returned or rejected payments.

If you see a video, text, email, phone call, flyer, or website that describes how you can pay bills using a Federal Reserve Bank routing number or account, report it to the FTC. It’s a scam. And remember: never give your credit card, bank account, or Social Security number to anyone who calls or emails and asks for it – no matter who they say they are.

LINK to REPORT to https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-1

August 17, 2017
by
Colleen Tressler

Consumer Education Specialist, FTC

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/no-secret-bank-accounts-pay-your-bills

http://www.dinardaily.net/t66534-federal-trade-commission-says-no-secret-bank-accounts-to-pay-your-bills

thanks Nash!

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avauinc wrote:Debunk all you want, ALL IS WELL! Go TDA!!!!!!!!!!!! :yes:

Well guess you'll be in court very soon! :yes:

Lanky wrote:What if you're not using it to pay bills and you just buy something off amazon or you're online shopping for like books ? Can you still get caught up or in trouble ?

Yes. The payment will not go through using these fraudulent accounts. If the order gets shipped prior to that happening, it will be sent to collections.

Consumer Scam Alert: Do Not Use Federal Reserve Routing Account Numbers to Pay Bills; Could Face Late Fees, Other Charges

For immediate release: July 12, 2017

Recently, the Federal Reserve Banks have received a number of unauthorized transactions in which consumers have tried to use the Fed's routing numbers and their Social Security numbers to pay their bills.

It is important for consumers to know that when making online or e-check bill payments, they cannot use Federal Reserve routing numbers. Federal Reserve routing numbers are used for sorting and processing payments between banks. Any video, text, email, phone call, flyer, or website that describes how to pay bills using a Federal Reserve Bank routing number or using an account at the Federal Reserve Bank is a scam.

The Federal Reserve provides banking services only for banks. Individuals do not have accounts at the Federal Reserve.

The bill payments being attempted using the Fed's routing numbers are being rejected and returned unpaid. Consumers who have attempted to use the Fed's routing numbers to pay their bills may be subject to penalty fees from the company they were attempting to pay.

https://www.frbatlanta.org/news/pressreleases/atlantafed/2017/0712-consumer-scam-alert-fr-routing-numbers

avauinc wrote:Still alive and well! Sending you love and light, and transmuting all those negative vibrations that do not serve me, humanity and the highest good to the Light of our Creator. ALL Is Well!
Go TDA! Go NESARA! :juggle: :juggle: :juggle:

Hello avauinc,

Is everything still going well for you?

still waiting for anyone to prove they have had success ...

Jmiles wrote:Progressive bill paid in full is the only on and that was done 9/22/2017 stil paid in full though.

Keep an eye on ALL of the ones you have done, but better yet...PAY them before it causes you more trouble than it's worth.

So far, no one has been able to pay their bills with this method and several others like it.

If you don't have a statement from the accounts your using, then how in the heck do you know the balance? That treasury bond calculator is not for your bond, if you used your SSN. If you need proof, did you see the balance go down when you submitted your payment?

I don't know if anyone is looking in to the Dinar Daily chat:

CHAT LINK

Auggie64 and REMO are promoting the TDA, in a way, but are putting out quite a bit of wild goose chases. LOL

One of the comments that strikes me, for those guys who seem to have their TDA, is that if you have your TDA, you wouldn't be in CHAT.

Yet...There they are! In CHAT.

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Department of Justice
U.S. Attorney’s Office
Eastern District of Tennessee

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Thursday, February 1, 2018

Federal Jury Convicts Knoxville Man and Former Washington State Prosecutor Turned Leader of Sovereign Citizen Movement of Wire Fraud and Conspiracy to Commit Money Laundering

KNOXVILLE, Tenn.-Following an eight-day trial before the Honorable Thomas A. Varlan, Chief U.S. District Court Judge, a jury found Randall Keith Beane, 50, of Knoxville, Tennessee, and Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf, 45, of Pierce County, Washington, guilty of conspiracy to commit money laundering. The jury also found Beane guilty of six additional counts of wire and bank fraud.

Sentencing is set for Beane on June 12, 2018, and Tucci-Jarraf on June 26, 2018 in U.S. District Court. Tucci-Jarraf faces a sentence of up to 20 years. Beane faces up to 30 years on the charges. There is no parole in the federal system.

Evidence presented at trial showed that Tucci-Jarraf acted as an unlicensed attorney for Beane in a scheme to defraud United Services Automobile Association (USAA) Bank, of more than 31 million dollars. In court filings, Tucci-Jarraf and Beane claim the government was foreclosed upon and has no jurisdiction over them. The defendants asserted at trial that the United States hides individuals’ secret accounts in the Federal Reserve Bank, a common ideology among sovereign citizen groups. Tucci-Jarraf was a former prosecutor in Pierce County, Washington.

"When wrongdoers attempt to stand behind an anti-governmentmovement to hide or justify fraudulent criminal activity, they will fail. This jury sent the message that the American judicial system will not shield them, and these two defendants now know they will be punished, whether or not they acknowledge the authority of the Court to do so," said U.S.Attorney J. Douglas Overbey.

The United States is also forfeiting a motor home worth over $500,000 that Beane purchased with the proceeds of the bank and wire fraud offenses. The loss to victim USAA bank totaled over $550,000.

Beane was arrested by FBI Special Agents in July 2017 as he attempted to flee in a half-million dollar motor coach purchased with stolen funds. He resisted arrest and fought the agents during the incident. Tucci-Jarraf was arrested in Washington, D.C., after attempting to meet with President Trump at the White House.

“Americans are free to believe as they choose about their government,” said Renae McDermott, special agent in charge of the FBI Knoxville Field Office. “When those beliefs turn into criminal actions, law enforcement must act.”

The FBI’s white collar crime squad and cyber task force conducted the investigation.Assistant U.S. Attorneys Cynthia Davidson and Anne-Marie Svolto represented the United States.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edtn/pr/federal-jury-convicts-knoxville-man-and-former-washington-state-prosecutor-turned

Please read this link : https://www.fbi.gov/scams-and-safety/common-fraud-schemes/redemption-strawman-bond-fraud

Tips for Avoiding Redemption/Strawman/Bond Fraud:

Be wary of individuals or groups selling kits that they claim will inform you how to access secret bank accounts.
Be wary of individuals or groups proclaiming that paying federal and/or state income tax is not necessary.
Do not believe that the U.S. Treasury controls bank accounts for all citizens.
Be skeptical of individuals advocating that speeding tickets, summons, bills, tax notifications, or similar documents can be resolved by writing “acceptance for value” on them.
If you know of anyone advocating the use of property liens to coerce acceptance of this scheme, contact your local FBI office.